Meeting+2009+Nov+5

Thursday 2009 Nov 5 8:30-10 1214 Jordan Hall, NCSU Campus
 * Wake County Nature Preserves Meeting**


 * Attendance Notes**

Steelman in DC. Hess will chair.

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 * Annotated Agenda Items**

Katy will turn current draft into fillable pdf form and we will a live fill in with Turnipseed Road during the meeting to see if it works. Tim/Chris--we'd like to have your participation to make sure it works!
 * 1) Finalize application and approval process.** (Holcombe)

Kaytee will work with Jamie to finish final "fillable" form and send to Tim and Chris to look at to fill in.

2**) Signs** (Holcombe) --Coke grant may be available [|coca cola grant] --Disign school contacts (Jamie) --School of Managment contacts (George) --Craig's List -- Pro bono work - kaytee has put together some possible logos see what you think [|LogoSamples.pdf]

Jamie will contact local advertising firm that might do pro bono work. Will look into coke grant and see if it can get money

John likes having a plant that is identifiable to NC

From Jamie: here are some other grant source possibilities: [] applications due Dec. 11 [] applications due in April

The management plan has been updated with the objectives from Wake County and management prescriptions from John Connors. Gary to discuss. [//Unfortunately, Gary will be in Pender County with his class and therefore unable to discuss, but John was responsible for the majority of the text amendments anyway and Gary just cleaned up the format and made the outline consistent.//GBB] Management Plan: [|TurnipseedMgtPlan09.pdf]
 * 3) Turnipseed Road Management Plan (Connors) **

Gary, John, and Tim are still working on plan will finish and present to OSAPAC and then Commissioners. George will work on getting forestry data.

4) Update on Regional Open Space Summit **Conservation Summit** ... final planning for 9 Nov summit (Hess)
 * Kirschman is coming and Mecklenburg County Commission Chairwoman Jennifer Roberts will be traveling with him
 * How do we get them some time with the right people? Current plan is to get them together during lunch ... sort of herding to same table.

Jamie will contact some more people and send reminders to elected officials.


 * 5) Possible change to preserve criteria .** (Hess)

As now written, any stream in Wake County could be considered an Outstanding Natural Area, because streams are a priority habitat in the Wildlife Action Plan. I (Hess) don't think this was our intent. Here is the relevant language, with the potentially problematic language underlined ...


 * //Category 2: Outstanding Natural Area//**

Definition: Areas exhibiting a significant diversity of flora, fauna, or natural communities. These areas will be determined by the presence of regionally rare species, a Landscape Habitat Indicator Guild Core Area, __or a priority habitat type__ or habitat known to support priority species listed __in the NC Wildlife Action Plan__.

I've discussed this by e-mail with Wallace, our Wildlife Resources representative. She made a number of suggestions ...

1) We could remove the phrase "or a priority habitat type." One problem in doing so is that our definition would then require known presence of priority species. Unfortunately, we do not have comprehensive data that shows us where priority species are using habitats in Wake County. This could require survey work on each property. In addition, if we go this route, we would need to define "support"? Will this mean presence/absence of an animal? Breeding populations?

2) We could more narrowly define each priority habitat type using definitions that have been created for a few different WRC programs. For streams, we could define them as streams located in sub-watersheds known to support federal or state listed species. We have a data source that shows this information. [//But 11 of the 20 federally listed species in Wake County are not water-dependent species, so their presence implies nothing about water quality in the sub-basin they occupy and such a linkage would be misleading//. GBB]

3) We could rephrase to say "or a **high quality** priority habitat type", and let the reviewers make the call in terms of high quality.

John thinks it might not be an issue: Jacquelyn thinks we should try to define what is a priority stream

Group agrees to take option 3.

-- did we get date nailed down --what materials/supplies do we need?
 * 6) CNR volunteer issues**

code Nov. 21- Volunteer Event @ Turnipseed Preserve, 8:00-11:30 am We are going to clean up salamander breeding pools and remove exotic invasive plant species at the Turnipseed Preserve in Marks Creek. We will depart from the back of Jordan Hall at 8:00 am Saturday morning and return to NCSU by 11:30 am. Bring work gloves, water bottle, and a snack. Please RSVP to me by Wednesday, Nov. 11 if you would like to participant.

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Chris and Tim have been talking with Patti Clayton about a service-learning immersion day at Marks Creek for NCSU faculty who are in a program learning about service-learning. The proposed date is MLK day on 2010 Jan 18. Chris, Tim, are you ready to nail this date, or do we need further discussion? The event is being designed to be "family friendly" so participants can bring their partners and kids. If anyone is interested in helping organize this, or in participating, please let Chris or Tim know. **
 * 7) WNPP Service Day (Hess)


 * 8) Land Conservation Symposium** (Perlmutter) **-** Gary P. will brief on this meeting held at the NCBG on 29 Oct: looking at the big picture. Also, while its involvement was only that as a sponsor, the Chatham Conservation Partnership also has a Wiki: http://chathamconservation.wikispaces.com/. Something to explore that's similar to what we and Mecklenberg County are doing, and possibly worthwhile to connect with. One of the themes of the Symposium was to build networks among organizations toward a stronger conservation movement.

--Colleen/Jackie can we get an update from you about where you are in this process? --Goal is to have this done in 2010 --John may have time to work on this in Spring 2010 --Kim S. has prescriptions that we should use from her masters' project -- There is potential for Gary/George to incorporate into Fall 2010 class -- We need a space on the wiki for recipe book // THERE IS NOW a Recipe Book page on the wiki, linked to the navigation bar under Resources
 * 9) Recipe book/database update**-- Colleen and Jackie. Toddi sent email. Hope to hear back.

Hey Toddi,

I sent you an email early fall letting you know I would not make it to any WNP meetings this fall for a number of reasons. I will be at the summit on Monday but not to a WNP meeting until Dec 17. Thursdays have been a big program day for the park. I hope to get back into regular attendance again in 2010.

For the NRID "database" we have written what I think is the final draft of the business proposal. We are waiting for a date with Wake County IS to do a powerpoint presentation to a committee for review and approval. I believe we are planning on this happening in December. Colleen is working on that date and as soon as we get one we will let you know. We too are hoping this is complete in 2010. We are actually hoping to have final approval from the county by early February as we are doing a presentation to the new NRLI class in February. As soon as we get something final we will let you know.

The "recipe book" was kind of put on hold. John wanted to finish the turnipseed plan, Jacquelyn and I were both very busy with summer events and then fall seemed to offer no slow down for me. I will re-establish a contact with everyone that was interested in working on that next week including Kim Shumate. I will also try to talk to people about it on the 9th as I see them.

I will not be there on Thursday as I am at Oglebay for Supervisors Management School. The 19th of Nov I am doing a career fair at a middle school and on Dec 5, I am facilitating a Project Learning Tree workshop. I will be there on Dec 17th!

Colleen will not be there this month either but she should be able to make Dec 5th.

I apologize for our lack of presence. I really want to be there and get more involved, but it has just not been able to happen.

Thanks for your patience and hope to see you on the 9th, Jackie Trickel

During this session, Hess and Steelman will facilitate an annual review meeting that will also help with the WakeNature book chapter. The main focus will be on the nature of our partnership, examining the range of partnerships from "a group of people who know and like one another" to "organizational commitments" ... where are we, where do we want to be, and how do we get there? Please plan to attend ... especially chapter co-authors. There might be a follow-on session on 3 Dec.
 * 10) WakeNature Book Chapter / Annual Review DeBrief Rescheduled to 19 November 8:30-10AM.** (Hess)