Meeting+2009+June+18

Thursday 2009 June 18 8:30-10 1214 Jordan Hall, NCSU Campus
 * Wake County Nature Preserves Meeting**


 * Attendance Notes**


 * Annotated Agenda Items**

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Sub-Committees will meet - there will be no general meeting.


 * Pre-Meeting**

Toddi and George met Tues 16 June to summarize activities to date, work plan, priorities --where have we been? --where are we going? --what should happen next?

We have accomplished some of the things we set out to do so far. We finished the step by step guide-- it is here. We did some capacity building. Made contact with Apex. Did site visit.

Agenda derived from revisiting goals laid out on January 8th, 2009 meeting.

John Connors reported that he will have his suggestions for the rock outcrops for Turnipseed Preserve done by the end of June. Group discussed how to communicate management activities for habitats. It was noted that becuase of the wide spectrum of habitats which are dependent on many things, it is difficult to make broad reccomendations. The subcommitee brainstormed about a possible flow chart outline form to help land managers make decisions and to ensure that there are multiple options available. Subcommitee feels that a printed version would be helpful for managers, having something at their desk to consult and also to build notes and observations as well as an online version for easy access and sharing. Personal experience has a lot to do with how a site gets managed due to the knowledge gained from having the opportunity to study site in depth. Perhaps one of the focuses for the recipe book is including ways to enter in information that can be easily shared with other land managers. Communication (or lack of it) can be a big problem with land management and co-shared responsibilities. Agenda for the what, when, and how was not determined.
 * 1. Need to make continued progress on recipe book**

-- identify which issues need to be addressed and the priority order: Wake County needs to state what their priorities for Turnipseed Preserve. What is the timeline we are working with? As for the format of the recipe book, where do land managers start, by looking at habitats and than choices for how to manages those situations? -- What form should it take - possibly use a flowchart style and a list management techniques -- how do we build it? - -- how do we organize it? -- should it be interactive? include feedback from experience? -- who is going to do what, when, how?

-- Gary's class will work on management plan in the Fall 09 -- What are the next concrete steps? -- How will we make clear progress here?
 * 2. Need to make continued progress Marks Creek Management Plan**

-- Clean up definition/criteria -- Strategy-- how do we proceed and build support? -- What do we want from County Commissioners? We want a designation category. We want Marks Creek to be included and meets criteria and should be called the County's first Nature Preserve. -- Can Kaytee help us understand what the language is for a proposed designation category? --Meet with OSAPAC -- Get OSAPAC approval -- Meet with County Commissioners or some subset -- How to involve municipalities as we move forward? -- Coordinate with Michael Kirschman visit?
 * 3. Designate Marks Creek a Nature Preserve**

Is there anything else we want to accomplish before the end of the year??

-- need to think about how management plan for Turnipseed Road will feed into the more generic recipe book --what are the biggest management challenges faced by managers in the county -- could the committee provide some direction for Gary's class in the fall in terms of priorities needed by managers in the county?
 * Recipe Book/Management Plan/Service Learning Committee**-- Jackie, Gary, Jaquelyn, John, Leigh Ann, Tim

At meeting: Connors, Alexander, Cheshire, Thomson

A note from Kim Shumate: Hello all. For my graduate research I am writing a management plan for the NC Museum of Art. In my plan, I have a list of major exotic invasive species and how to treat/manage/(hopefully) eradicate these species. I have also listed some restoration data such as old field conversion to piedmont prairie. I am aiming for a complete draft of my plan by the end of the month. If you all would find this helpful, I would gladly give you a copy to use in the "Recipe Book." The prescriptions in my plan may be a good way to jump start this effort and additional supply great feedback for me. Unfortunately, I have a conflicting meeting Thursday and can only stay until 9. The plan is currently in rough draft form but I will bring a copy anyway for you all to look over. Let me know if this would be of any help to the group.

Thanks, Kim Shumate

Michael Kirschman Visit-- Toddi, George, Jamie, Chris, Kaytee -- figure out best venues for visit --figure out who we are trying to reach --figure out best format for visit --meet with other potential stakeholders who would be interested in visit

At meeting: Hess, Ramsey; at end, Connors, Alexander, Thomson from other group


 * Notes**

Discussed possibility of a 2-day visit with this general agenda ... Day 1 Drive up to arrive 11:30ish Lunch Presentation 1 (NC Museum or other downtown venue) Small meetings with county /muni staff Dinner

Day 2 Breakfast with electeds Other small meetings Presentation 2 10:30ish (NCSU - Jordan Hall auditorium, Stewart, etc) Lunch Depart

Sig Hutchinson is confident we could get enough sponsors to cover expenses and perhaps a small honorarium.

Hess called Kirschman after the meeting to make sure he'd even consider this, and he would. He was considering bringing Don Seriff as well, and still could - they'd just share a room. A 2-day might have ramifications for bringing Jennifer Roberts, who is unlikely to want to devote 2 days or drive back and forth herself.

Timing is an issue - Sept is very soon, esp if we want to make this a big deal and advertise to a very wide audience. Connors notes that we could use the Museum auditorium at no cost if we wish, but that the museum usually looks for at least 6 months to publicize an event like this.

Other timing issue is whether we feel Kirschman should come before we try to move forward the county commission consideration of Turnipseed Nature Preserve, or if after is OK.