Meeting+2010+Jun+3

Thursday 2010 Jun 3 8:30-10 1214 Jordan Hall, NCSU Campus
 * Wake County Nature Preserves Meeting**


 * Attendance Notes**

Attending: Hess (notes), Blank, Perlmutter, Pohlman, Steelman

Holcombe, Wallace will be unable to attend.


 * Annotated Agenda Items**

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 * Introductions as needed** (5 minutes)

>> "Property description" was intended to do this, but it got lost in translation.
 * Application & Review Process** - subcommittee to report on review of Wake County's application for Turnipseed. We have a working page for our thoughts as well - the Turnipseed Review page.
 * Subcom met Wed 2 June 10-noon at Cup-of-Joe in Mission Valley - Blank, Connors, Hess, Snow, Wallace. (notes by Hess)
 * Management plan, management plan template, and application checklists require revision to bring them all into alignment and make the submission and review process clearer - all checklist items will be required - Blank, Connors, Hess, Snow will work on this with goal of completing approval process by 2010 Sept 1. Main items ...
 * There should be a section very early in the document that explains how the property meets WNPP criteria.
 * Instead of an "annual workplan" there should be a "proposed 5-year implementation timeline" that would include a list of what is to be done within the 5-year period before the property will be reviewed for recertification. This is, essentially, a prioritization of the management elements proposed in the plan. For each item / task listed, include frequency or proposed year for carrying out, management tools required to carry out, and expected source of funding or in-kind labor. If possible, include person-hours and cost estimate to complete.
 * All appendixes to be included.
 * Philosophical note - WNPP does not decide what elements on the property are to be managed. For example, if there are 8 NHEOs on the property and the agency submits a management plan that says they're managing for only 6 of the 8, that is not grounds for rejection - that is their choice. We do, however, have to be able to judge if the management proposed is reasonable for the 6 they are managing.
 * We need to establish a committee to review applications, and suggest representatives from the various partners be on that committee: TLC, NCSU, NHP, WRC, Museum, and a local govt representative. For the Wake County application, we will ask Cienek (TLC), Hess (NCSU), Pohlman (NHP), Wallace (WRC), Connors (Museum), and Salter (local govt). Hess will follow up and ask.
 * Blank, Connors, Hess, Snow have meeting set for Thurs 17 June 10A-1P (following regular WNPP meeting) to work on these items - all are welcome - 3213 Jordan Addition. Hess and Blank will organize some things in advance.
 * Target submission of revised application and management plan in July looking for approval by 1 Sept, latest.


 * NOTES:** There was agreement of those present with the thoughts presented here.
 * Committee discussion
 * Addition to committee - also need to allow for bringing on additional expertise as needed to evaluate plan.
 * How are decisions made - vote? majority?
 * Steelman suggested that the committee be ad hoc with appropriate representation from appropriate groups, with a certain number of seats (say 6). Subcom works by consensus and makes final decision.
 * Slots: want representation from partner orgs, and relevant technical experience. 5 to 7 total on committee
 * NCSU, NHP, TLC, WRC, Museum, Local Govt, at large for expertise - primary screen is to pick organizatinal representation, then within that get the appropriate technical expertise
 * Have a chair who has not been intimately involved with the site


 * Registering our name** - there had been discussion in the past about registering our name with the Secretary of State so that we protect WakeNature as our identity. It's probably time to do this. We need to protect WakeNature Preserves Partnership and, if we go for it, our tag-line, Promising Nature a Future. What do others think? Amanda Willis is looking into it and should have a report for us.

Amanda was unable to make it. Main thing is we want to know what our options are and the +/- of each option. Steelman will follow up with Willis.
 * NOTES**


 * Tag line** - The communications class suggested a tag line and I (george) want to move that we use a modification of it that we discussed at out last meeting - Promising Nature a Future. I wonder if this should go on the signs / logo Shawn is designing. I added it to our home page header - take a look and see what you think - wakenature.wikispaces.com


 * NOTES** Everyone likes the tag line - we'll move forward with it.


 * Summertime volunteer activities--** what is the game plan?


 * NOTES**
 * Perlmutter - DiscoverLife would like to do a photo survey concentrating on the flora at Turnipseed
 * If this is going to happen, someone is going to have to take the lead - Perlmutter will do
 * Other option is that Wake County has a new volunteer coord coming on late June, but we're not sure what priorities are - Hess will follow up
 * Other option is CNR work day - Hess following up
 * Be sure to coordinate any activities on site with LaTroya for filming

--We reviewed specific maps of Anderson Point Park, Durant Nature Park and Neuse River from Thorton Rd to Horseshoe Farm to see how our WNPP criteria worked. --Raleigh has proposed additional GIS criteria for consideration of inclusion because they are concerned that not all the parks that have significant values are being capture with the WNPP criteria --We discussed and narrowed these additional criteria --Next meeting we will look at Durant Park with the new criteria --We will also discuss the "subjective" criteria (these have a lot to do with management limitations/challenges)
 * Update on Raleigh Nature Parks/Preserves Task Force Process-**- George, Toddi


 * UPDATES & FYI**

Here's an interesting piece about how to talk about conservation that I (george) got at the Land Trust Assembly meeting in May.Could help with our message - and //Promising Nature a Future// seems like a winner in light of this. [|LanguageOfConservation.pdf]

> @http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_JP38506 and ending at @http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_JP38879, and Nancy's pix at @http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_NLL8274.
 * Lichen Survey / Discover Life updates:** Gary P.
 * Fieldwork is complete toward the Turnipseed Lichen Survey. Focus is now on identifying specimens, analysis and report preparation.
 * Discover Life folks have conducted a photosurvey of the Pleasant's parcel of Turnipseed, and will return at a later date to survey the southern portion of the Area. For now, you can view Pick's pix starting at
 * Nancy has also asked me to send her species lists to prepare field guides for Turnipseed. I am therefore making a Excel workbook of all the data we have, compiled from various spreadsheets and survey reports from the Marks Creek Assessment into one handy file on Turnipseed's biodiversity. This could also serve as needed appendices to the Management Plan.